Curse

Mimi Miyagi · Jun 28, 2006, 05:01 PM // 17:01

I keep pointing this out, but everyone seems to ignore it. Even pointing it out to the mods has been futile.

Factions didn't sell 2 million copies. The press release says "Guild Wars FRANCHISE" sold 2 million, that includes BOTH factions AND prophesies.

The GWG news post on the front page is WRONG.

And you want to know where veryone is?

A few months ago, one of the ANet developers (I believe it was Jeff Strain) was interviewed in an online article, and the 1 million sales # was brought up (for prophesies).

Jeff stated that the 1 million figure was "old news" and that they had "blown past" that number quite some time ago.

Thus, while no solid sales #s have been discussed (besides the 1 million benchmark) for prophesies, It's significantly higher than 1 million.

So, no matter what, if the entire franchise (chapter 1 AND 2) has sold 2 million copies, Factions has sold LESS than prophesies. How much less? No one really knows, but even a conservative estimate of 1.2 million prophesies sales, that means that Factions sold 800K, fully 1/3rd LESS than chapter 1.

I really wish GWG would FIX their news page, it's misleading - well, no, it's flat out wrong.

forever · Jun 28, 2006, 06:56 PM // 18:56

Yes, the 2 million unit sales are Prophecies and Factions combined. My estimation is 1.5M for P and 500k for F. But keep in mind that Factions has only come out for 2 months. It took Prophecies about 4.5 months to reach 1 million mark (from release late April to early September iirc).

Sir Green Aluminum · Jun 29, 2006, 12:02 AM // 00:02

In one of the 100 districts of the town with a holiday event happening.

king hidalgo · Jun 29, 2006, 12:07 AM // 00:07

1 thing is i really cant get into factions like prophics i find myself board in parts merly waiting for a group also id like to revue the whole look of memsers although guildwars has the best grpahics ive ever seen for an online game wiht no monthly fees, the design team must of got bored when desiging the male memsers armour it looks poo poo !!!!

i find it ludacrous how people say factions was sucessful i hear so many people talk about how unsucessful it is

dreamhunk · Jun 29, 2006, 12:13 AM // 00:13

to think about it. they are selling to asain counties soo the sales are bad!

canada
usa
eourpe
china etc......

Loviatar · Jun 29, 2006, 12:54 AM // 00:54

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Originally Posted by king hidalgo

i find it ludacrous how people say factions was sucessful i hear so many people talk about how unsucessful it is

people bitch but sales are still in the top 10 so how is that unsuccessful?

Malice Black · Jun 29, 2006, 12:57 AM // 00:57

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Originally Posted by dreamhunk

to think about it. they are selling to asain counties soo the sales are bad!

canada
usa
eourpe
china etc......

asians are the biggest purchasers of MMO's..not selling to asains would have been a disaster, GW would have flopped

nytestalker · Jun 29, 2006, 12:57 AM // 00:57

Remeber that big bot banning that happend.. oh a week or so before the anounced 2 million mark?

Co-incidence? I think not.

All those botters just bought another copy of guildwars.

Go team bot!

Malice Black · Jun 29, 2006, 01:09 AM // 01:09

as already stated the mentioning of bots is getting olddd..yes everyone knows they exsist

not every asian is a bot..i expect euro/yanks use them aswell

anyways my last post on this...seems the mods dont like my posts (shame) must be heading towards record amount of removed posts now..along with this 1 no doubt

anyways back on topic...this game will turn into the rocky films No1 good No2 average No3 poor No4 slit ya wrists

sells will be good i have no doubt but the actual content...nah

Mimi Miyagi · Jun 29, 2006, 01:23 AM // 01:23

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Originally Posted by Loviatar

people bitch but sales are still in the top 10 so how is that unsuccessful?

Top 10 in this part of the year doesn't mean anything. Trophy Deer Hunter and Barbie Fashion Designer can make top 10 this month.

As I've mentioned in another thread - 500K-800K in sales isn't a failure, it actually very good. But compared to Chapter 1, it's a disturbing trend.

It sold good enough to get a green light for chapter 3, who knows what will happen of sales continue to shrink chapter to chapter?

Plushie Penguin · Jun 29, 2006, 01:31 AM // 01:31

um.... thanks for showing a picture of my warior leveling

maybe alot of them are in places that are just getting guild wars servers...
that was in quarry, and the past lack of faction given there has left a lasting effect of people being addicted to aspenwood. though I would think you would only go up against people of the same country, I think I once went against a group from another country once in quarry.

dreamhunk · Jun 29, 2006, 01:48 AM // 01:48

If i was ncsoft I would sit down with anet and other titles they have and have real good chat!

this coming chapter 3 better be good. there now more pressure for anet to do better! the only way is to make better rpg, that is If they have not already lost their player base.

Age · Jun 29, 2006, 02:03 AM // 02:03

They haven't lost the majority of thier player base but they need to listen to them more.I don't think there 2 mil. playing GW atm.

Eet GnomeSmasher · Jun 29, 2006, 02:21 AM // 02:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mimi Miyagi

Top 10 in this part of the year doesn't mean anything. Trophy Deer Hunter and Barbie Fashion Designer can make top 10 this month.

As I've mentioned in another thread - 500K-800K in sales isn't a failure, it actually very good. But compared to Chapter 1, it's a disturbing trend.

It sold good enough to get a green light for chapter 3, who knows what will happen of sales continue to shrink chapter to chapter?

Did you ever think that Chapter1 sold a lot more than Chapter2 because it's had a lot more time to make those sales? I'm not saying that's the only reason but come on...you're using an unfair comparision. Wait until Factions is a year old.

Stockholm · Jun 29, 2006, 02:26 AM // 02:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamhunk

to think about it. they are selling to asain counties soo the sales are bad!

canada
usa
eourpe
china etc......

First NC-Soft is an Asian company (Korean) and if you look at the population figuers they kind of speak for them selfs..............

China population 1.3 BILLION
US + Canada 0.32 Billion
EU 0.46 Billion

Do you blaim them for going after the bussines in china? lol double the market in 1 country.

dreamhunk · Jun 29, 2006, 02:28 AM // 02:28

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Originally Posted by Stockholm

China population 1.3 BILLION
US + Canada 0.32 Billion
EU 0.46 Billion

Do you blaim them for going after the bussines in china? lol double the market in 1 country.

No I am saying they are selling to all these countries and the sales are bad! they should have made more!

Malice Black · Jun 29, 2006, 02:28 AM // 02:28

chap1>factions

why? because the sequel never beats the original..someone would have bought chap1 thought it was shit and binned it

with factions ppl will buy it and either bin it or complete then buy chap1

makes sense i hope..

Whiplashr · Jun 29, 2006, 02:29 AM // 02:29

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Originally Posted by Stockholm

China population 1.3 BILLION
US + Canada 0.32 Billion
EU 0.46 Billion

Do you blaim them for going after the bussines in china? lol double the market in 1 country.

A fairly substantial portion of those 1.3 billion people are people who are relativley poor, working as farmers. Certainly not people with computers.

Malice Black · Jun 29, 2006, 02:31 AM // 02:31

asians also have the fastest BB connection going

they have the largest BB network and they are encouraged to have internet connection by their own goverment...asia dominance of MMO's is just starting

dreamhunk · Jun 29, 2006, 02:33 AM // 02:33

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Originally Posted by Eet GnomeSmasher

Did you ever think that Chapter1 sold a lot more than Chapter2 because it's had a lot more time to make those sales? I'm not saying that's the only reason but come on...you're using an unfair comparision. Wait until Factions is a year old.

it would not matter anet has been out for a year. If they came out with a new game. there should be enough people who would want to buy the game. In the rpg coummunity gw has a bad rep for not being a rpg.